Guest Demetrius Shipp, Jr. Talks KD Balling, Lazy James Harden, LiAngelo to Lakers | Out of Bounds

On today’s episode of #OutofBounds, actor Demetrius Shipp, Jr. joins Gilbert Arenas, Adam Caparell, and Pierce Simpson to talk about Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals. The Warriors beat the Rockets 119-106 to take a 1-0 lead in the series, with Kevin Durant giving Houston 37 points. Do the Rockets have an answer for KD? Also, Gil explains what James Harden did wrong despite dropping a game-high 41 points, before completely slandering one unfortunate Rockets player who may find himself benched soon.

Looking ahead to tonight’s Game 2 in the Eastern Conference Finals, the panel asks if LeBron James and the Cavs can rebound after Boston blew them out 108-83 in the series opener, with Marcus Morris holding King James to just 15 points on 5-for-16 shooting. Even if LBJ balls out, will the rest of the Cavs deliver? Plus, whose adjustments will prevail: Celtics coach Brad Stevens’ or LeBron’s with his photographic memory of games?

On Monday, the Supreme Court struck down the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, allowing states to legalize betting on sports. Resident gambling addict Adam asks if legal sports betting will corrupt sports any more than illegal gambling did, if leagues were ever truly concerned about the “integrity of the game,” and how the ruling will affect players, collective bargaining, and salary caps moving forward.

Finally, after LiAngelo Ball told ESPN it’s a “priority” to be drafted by the Lakers and to play with his older brother Lonzo, Gil and the guys discuss whether Gelo should reevaluate his priorities given his shaky draft stock. Also, how should other teams feel about him being “willing to play” for them. Is there an NBA team he’d fit on? Is he even good enough to play in the summer league? The G League? Plus, Demetrius shares some inside info on Gelo that he got from his UCLA connect.

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Should Nova’s Jay Wright Go to NBA?; “Millennial” Josh Rosen; HOF Slander | Out of Bounds

On today’s show, 2018 NFL Hall of Fame inductee Terrell Owens is back to chop it up with Gilbert Arenas and the #OutofBounds boys. With Villanova routing Michigan in the NCAA Final to win the school’s second title in three years, the crew asks if Wildcats coach Jay Wright should leverage his success to jump to the NBA in “The Pull-Up.” Plus, the crew discusses if one-and-done is still a winning strategy, and Gil talks about not shaking Duke players’ hands after losing the 2001 final. Next, OOB takes a close look at the NBA players in the 2018 Basketball Hall of Fame class. Does everybody belong? Gil doesn’t think so, but his case for his own induction into the HOF may surprise you. In “Fair or Foul?” the team weighs in on former UCLA football coach Jim Mora taking shots at his old QB Josh Rosen, disparaging millennials and players with outside interests while discussing his draft prospects. Gil and T.O. discuss the different approaches NFL and NBA coaches take to free-thinking players. Finally, the team tackles new Raiders coach Jon Gruden sending a “message” to his team by cutting standout punter Marquette King, another expressive individual known for his entertaining antics. T.O. is perplexed but Gil has a theory about the coaching move. Plus, Gil introduces Pierce to his imaginary wife, fake Rihanna.

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LaVar Ball Reignites Trump Feud With ‘#StayInYoLane’ Tweet

LaVar Ball has re-sparked his feud with President Donald Trump that started back in November. Ball took to Twitter Saturday to gloat after an ESPN report revealed that Trump likely overstated his involvement in securing the release of LiAngelo Ball and two other members of UCLA’s basketball team—Cody Riley and Jalen Hill—after a shoplifting incident in China.

“Thank you for what again @realDonaldTrump? #knowyourfacts #stayinyolane,” Ball tweeted, after the ESPN report went live Saturday.

In November, Trump tweeted that the UCLA players should’ve thanked him for his help in preventing them from serving a 10-year jail sentence for shoplifting in China.

Per ESPN’s report, the charges had been dropped, and LiAngelo Ball, Hill, and Riley were already scheduled to return to America two days before Trump got involved.

Things got increasingly tense between Trump and LaVar when he initially downplayed Trump’s involvement.

“What was he over there for?” Ball replied to ESPN when asked about Trump’s potential involvement. “Don’t tell me nothing. Everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out.”

It’s unclear if Trump knew the matter had pretty much been resolved before he reached out to Chinese President Xi Jinping, but he still had those petty tweets ready.

Months later, UCLA officials confirmed to ESPN that Trump and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly got involved late in the process. The players involved gave Trump the thanks he demanded during a press conference, but LaVar was correct in implying that Trump had very little to do with settling the incident. Given both Trump and Ball’s affinity for getting the last word, it remains to be seen if one of the stranger sports feuds in recent years is finally over.

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Kyle Kuzma Clowns Lonzo Ball for Eating a Big Bowl of Cheese for Dinner

Kyle Kuzma and Lonzo Ball love roasting each other. As we wrote earlier this week, Kuzma is quickly emerging as perhaps the NBA's best social media presence, and his jabs back and forth with Ball are a big reason for it.

The two were rivals in college just a year ago—they both played at Pac-12 schools (Kuzma at Utah, Ball at UCLA)—but they've formed a close and hilarious friendship during their first year in the NBA, a friendship fueled by social media. The latest playful exchange happened at a Lakers team dinner, where Kuzma found Ball eating a dinner that consisted of…a full bowl of cheese.

“Ay yo, big dog, you hungry, bruh? Are you hungry right now?” Kuzma asks Ball. “This dude is eating plain cheese. That's it.”

At the beginning of the video, Kuzma also teases their fellow rookie Josh Hart, who had just broken a bone in his left hand. 

Kuzma also roasted Hart after he posted a dramatic photo, post-injury, on Instagram. Larry Nance Jr., who was traded at the deadline to the Cavs, got in on the fun, too.

Man, these rookies really seem to like each other. Regardless of whether the Lakers land LeBron James in free agency, they have the start of something good here.

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High School Ballers Are Putting LaVar Ball on Blast for Trying to Slide Into DMs to Recruit for Pro League

In late December, LaVar Ball made a stunning announcement. Just weeks after pulling his son LiAngelo out of UCLA and saying he planned on preparing him for the NBA himself, the Ball family patriarch revealed he is going to start his own league called the Junior Basketball Association for those players who don’t want to take part in NCAA basketball.

At the time, Ball said he thought it would be “easy” to convince kids to play in the JBA. The plan was to give all players a salary of somewhere between $3,000 and $10,000 and have them play in major cities like New York, Los Angeles, and Atlanta.

But it sounds like Ball has run into some trouble recruiting prospects to play in the league. According to high school and college basketball recruiting site Tipton Edits, Ball has used social media DMs to contact about 80 high school players to gauge their interest in playing in the JBA. But all of the top recruits have reportedly turned him down, and two, in particular, have put him on blast for his method of going about recruiting.

Tyler Herro, who hails from Wisconsin and is slated to attend Kentucky next season, is one of the players who was contacted by Ball. He shared a screenshot of the message he received from Big Baller Brand before revealing he declined the offer.

Jalen Carey, a guard from New Jersey who will attend Syracuse next season, was also approached by Ball about joining the JBA. He, too, declined the offer he received and shared a screenshot of it on Snapchat.

In fairness to Ball, trying to contact potential JBA recruits through DMs is probably the most efficient way for him to do it at this time since he’s spent most of the last month in Lithuania with LiAngelo and his youngest son LaMelo. But as SB Nation pointed out, he’s getting a whole bunch of rejections from players right now, so it’s probably time for him to switch up his method. Otherwise, the JBA might disappear just as quickly as it initially popped up.

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LaVar Ball Keeps Feud Going by Posting GIF of Himself Dunking on Donald Trump

LaVar Ball isn't going to let go of a great marketing opportunity his feud with Donald Trump. On Tuesday, Ball appeared on CNN's New Day where he used Trump's words against him, complaining that he “didn’t get a thank you” from the President of the United States for the three pairs of red, white, and blue Big Baller Brand sneakers he sent to the White House. 

Back in November, Ball was adamant that he would not be saying thank you to Trump, even after he claimed to be the one who spoke to Chinese president Xi Jinping​, and helped bring LaVar's son LiAngelo, as well as former UCLA freshmen Jalen Hill and Cody Riley, back home. “I don't have to go around saying thank you to everybody,” he told Chris Cuomo during their interview last month. 

Earlier today, LaVar added more fuel to the fire by posting a GIF which shows him dunking on Trump. 

When the GIF zooms in on the Twitter app on the phone, you can see a tweet from Ball's account, saying, “Stay in yo lane @realDonaldTrump! The Big Baller will put you on a poster.” It will probably only be a matter of time before Trump responds and gives LaVar exactly what he wants—more free yet valuable publicity. 

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LaVar Ball Discusses the Idea of LiAngelo Returning to China to Play Professionally

Now that LaVar Ball has pulled his middle son LiAngelo out of UCLA, everyone is wondering where he’ll play next. It doesn’t sound like he’s going to transfer to a different college, and it also sounds like his European options could be limited. So could he potentially end up back in China of all places, the same place where he was just arrested and jailed for shoplifting?

Shortly after LiAngelo left UCLA, some basketball fans joked about the idea of LiAngelo going back to China.

But it could actually be a real possibility—at least if you ask LaVar. TMZ Sports caught up with the Ball family patriarch at Los Angeles International Airport on Wednesday afternoon and asked him if he thinks China would be a good landing place for LiAngelo. His response: “Why not?”

LaVar didn’t really shed any light on where LiAngelo might end up, but he did say he doesn’t think Chinese basketball teams would be against bringing LiAngelo back into the mix, despite his recent legal concerns in the country.

“Of course,” LaVar told a TMZ Sports cameraman. “Why not? I don’t know what he’s going to do, but [China] would be happy to have him.”

Chinese teams have welcomed plenty of U.S. basketball stars with open arms in the past. Hell, Stephon Marbury is basically basketball royalty in China at this point. But would they really welcome LiAngelo after all the controversy he caused in November?

It sounds crazy, but then again, this entire LiAngelo saga has been crazy, so would it even surprise you if he ended up in China? Check out the clip above to see LaVar address it. Later in the clip, LiAngelo also makes a brief appearance, mostly ignoring the TMZ Sports cameraman’s questions about his future.

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A Timeline of Donald Trump’s Beef with LaVar Ball

At some point, you just knew that Donald Trump and LaVar Ball were going to cross paths in 2017. After all of the completely off-the-wall shit that has taken place this year, it wouldn’t be right if we went into 2018 without their names being linked for one reason or another. But we really have to give it up to them: In our wildest dreams, we couldn’t imagine them being connected as a result of a story involving Louis Vuitton sunglasses, shoplifting, and international politics.

And yet, here we are! With still about a month to go in 2017, the inevitable Donald Trump vs. LaVar Ball feud that we all knew was going to happen has happened. The two engaged in a war of words over the weekend, and thanks to their beef, LaVar made an appearance on CNN on Monday night that will more than likely receive a response from Trump.

Let’s take a look at how we got here. Here’s a timeline of Donald Trump’s beef with the head of the Ball family.

Nov. 7, 2017: LiAngelo Ball and two UCLA teammates are arrested in China for shoplifting

During a trip to China to take part in a game against Georgia Tech, LiAngelo and his two teammates, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill, were arrested after they were caught stealing from a Louis Vuitton store near their team hotel. They were released from police custody but were ordered to give up their passports and stay at the hotel until an investigation into the shoplifting allegations took place. Initial reports indicated they could face 3 to 10 years in prison.

Nov. 8, 2017: LaVar Ball says LiAngelo’s arrest “ain’t a big deal”

Despite the possibility of the serious prison sentence that was first reported, LiAngelo’s dad LaVar downplayed the situation. “He’ll be fine,” LaVar told ESPN’s Arash Markazi. “Everyone’s making it a big deal. It ain’t that big a deal.”

Nov. 9, 2017: LaVar is told not to comment on LiAngelo’s arrest again

Just one day after LaVar said LiAngelo’s shoplifting arrest wasn’t “that big a deal,” LaVar refused to comment further on the situation. ESPN’s Arash Markazi reported that someone had told LaVar not to speak about LiAngelo any further until he was allowed to return to the U.S.

Nov. 13, 2017: Trump asks China’s President Xi Jinping to help settle LiAngelo’s case

Several days after LiAngelo was arrested, The Washington Post reported that Trump reached out to President Xi Jinping of China to try and resolve the case. When asked about it, Trump said that President Xi had been “terrific” with regards to his request. But he said that the shoplifting case was “not something that should have happened” in the first place. He also reportedly referred to LiAngelo and his teammates as “knuckleheads” while speaking with President Xi.

Nov. 14, 2017: LiAngelo and his teammates are allowed to leave China

One week after being arrested, LiAngelo and his teammates were finally allowed to leave their hotel and board a flight for Los Angeles. The shoplifting charges that were originally filed against them were reportedly dropped, clearing the way for them to make their way home.

Nov. 15, 2017: Trump calls for LiAngelo and his teammates to thank him for his help

Almost as soon as LiAngelo and his teammates arrived back in the U.S., Trump sent out a tweet that seemed to suggest he was expecting them to say thank you to him at some point. “Do you think the three UCLA Basketball Players will say thank you President Trump?” he wrote. “They were headed for 10 years in jail!”

Nov. 15, 2017: LiAngelo and his teammates thank Trump

During a press conference in which all three UCLA players apologized for their actions in China, they also offered up their thanks to Trump.

Nov. 18, 2017: LaVar says he doesn’t think Trump helped LiAngelo and his teammates

While speaking with ESPN a few days after LiAngelo’s safe arrival back in the U.S., LaVar said he didn’t believe Trump played a big part in bringing the UCLA players home. “Who?” LaVar said. “What was he over there for? Don’t tell me nothing. Everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out.”

LaVar continued: “As long as my boy’s back here, I’m fine. I’m happy with how things were handled. A lot of people like to say a lot of things that they thought happened over there. Like I told him, 'They try to make a big deal out of nothing sometimes.' I’m from L.A. I’ve seen a lot worse things happen than a guy taking some glasses. My son has built up enough character that one bad decision doesn’t define him.”

Nov. 19, 2017: Trump says he should have left LiAngelo and his teammates in jail

In response to LaVar’s “Who?” comment, Trump responded by saying that he should have left LiAngelo and his teammates in jail in China. “Now that the three basketball players are out of China and saved from years in jail, LaVar Ball, the father of LiAngelo, is unaccepting of what I did for his son and that shoplifting is no big deal,” he wrote. “I should have left them in jail!”

Trump added: “Shoplifting is a very big deal in China, as it should be (5-10 years in jail), but not to father LaVar. Should have gotten his son out during my next trip to China instead. China told them why they were released. Very ungrateful!”

Nov. 20, 2017: LaVar refuses to thank Trump during CNN appearance

During one of LaVar’s most memorable media appearances yet, he refused to thank Trump for whatever role he played in bringing LiAngelo back to the U.S. “Did he help the boys get out?” he asked. “I don’t know. If I was going to thank someone, I would probably thank President Xi.”

Towards the end of the interview, LaVar also said the only way he would have thanked Trump is if he would have personally put LiAngelo on Air Force One to bring him home. “I would have said, 'Thank you,' if he put him on his plane and took him home,” he said. “Then I would have said, 'Thank you, Mr. Trump, for taking my boys out of China and bringing them back to the U.S.' There’s a lot of room on that plane. I would have said, 'Thank you kindly for that.'”

And at one point, LaVar also made a Trump-esque statement by saying that he played a bigger part in freeing LiAngelo than Trump did. “I had some people that had boots on the ground that knew the situation when we first jumped on there,” he said. “I keep those people in mind.”

Trump and Ball both seem like the kind of guys who want to have the last word. So we wouldn’t expect this to end anytime soon.

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On today’s episode of #OutOfBounds, special guest Miko Grimes gives us a peek inside the NFL. She doubles down on her Derek Carr controversy, combats the crew on Colin Kaepernick, and tells us what’s going on with the Bucs. The crew talks Donald Trump intervening in the UCLA case, Metta World Peace joining the Big 3, and last night’s Cavaliers vs. Knicks game: Was LeBron really being a bully? Plus, Gilbert Arenas gives viewers advice on following their dreams. 

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