‘Game of Thrones’ Fans Just Got a Big Hint About An Upcoming Spin-Off Series

If Game of Thrones is the biggest show on television, then the numerous spin-off series we've been promised by HBO are probably the biggest upcoming shows in television. Thrones fans who are upset to see their favorite characters go will need something to cling to, and a new journey through Westeros will help ease the pain of the O.G. series ending.

If you've been following Game of Thrones closely, whether through the TV series or because you devoured all the books, you'll likely recognize what's to come, according to one of the people devloping a spin-off series. Screenwriter Jane Goldman, who is working on a future series with Thrones creator George R.R. Martin, says they'll be covering territory you've heard about already.

If I was able to say what mine was,” Goldman told IGN, “I think as a book reader or as someone who watched the series, you would say, 'Oh, that! OK.' Yeah, it would be recognizable as a past event, but I think that’s probably as far as I can go.'

So this reveals at least one crucial piece of information for this particular spin-off—it will take place in the past, since it follows an event that can be recognized by name. Given the staggering amount of people who have died on the show during the last seven seasons, this could mean the return of some of your favorites who lost their lives.

BrdTJ5YjE6LsD3khpnaqFBuQZ0XKBl47

The simple connection to make is to Robert's Rebellion, which saw Robert Baratheon, Ned Stark, and others lead a conquest against the Mad King, setting up the world we see at the beginning of Game of Thrones. The rebellion is referenced frequently throughout the books and the show, and a lot of the power dynamics and rivalries between houses stem from who they were loyal to during the great conflict.

But Martin himself has insisted there will not be a need to focus on Robert's Rebellion, telling fans via his Live Journal that it wouldn't be necessary by the time the main series is over.

“We're not doing Robert's Rebellion,” said Martin. “By the time I finish writing A SONG OF ICE & FIRE, you will know every important thing that happened in Robert's Rebellion. There would be no surprises or revelations left in such a show, just the acting out of conflicts whose resolutions you already know. That's not a story I want to tell just now; it would feel too much like a twice-told tale.”

This makes sense on some level, because Robert's Rebellion may serve better as a storytelling device than a show itself. One of the reasons the story of Robert's rebellion was so important to Thrones was because it showed that men are not so easily labeled “heroes” and “villains,” and instead are complicated individuals who contain multitudes. Retelling a story we are already keenly aware of—and focusing on the same characters we know well—wouldn't be the best use of resources.

I0M3g5YzE6du8fUV5C2hwrA0hk-KGJw1

A better option might be to focus on “Dance of the Dragons,” a civil war within House Targaryen that led to the deaths of several rulers and the destruction of most of the dragons possessed by the family. The battle between family members would reflect the politics fans love on the main Game of Thrones show, and of course, we'd get a metric ton of dragon battles, which I don't think anyone would turn down.

Who knows what the final product could be—could we even see a series about the mysterious Children of the Forest?—but with Game of Thrones wrapping up soon, the arrival of a spin-off can't come soon enough.

More from Complex

Future Postpones Virginia Shows Following Violence in Charlottesville

Future has postponed two Virginia dates from his Hndrxx Tour following the white supremacist rallies that took place in Charlottesville over the weekend. Future took to Twitter to share the announcement.

“Out of respect for the tragic events I felt it wasn't rite to perform at this time..please understand my heart mean well VA,” he wrote.

The shows were originally planned to take place at John Paul Jones Arena in Charlottesville and Veterans United Home Loans Amphitheater in Virginia Beach. The stop in Charlottesville was a part of the University of Virginia's “Welcome Week” for returning students.

Lil Yachty was also booked to perform at the Charlotte show. “VA is important to me & always will be. I'm comin very soon, my word! Love Forever,” Future wrote in a second tweet.

Over the weekend, a group of violent white supremacists descended upon Charlottesville to proclaim their message of hate and intolerance. White nationalist terrorist James Alex Fields Jr. rammed his vehicle through a crowd of anti-racist and anti-fascist counter-protesters, murdering 32-year-old Heather D. Heyer and injuring others. 

Following the announcement of the Charlottesville show's cancelations, #giveUVAaCHANCE, an online social media campaign, has asked Chance the Rapper to come play the concert as a replacement. 

Future's Hndrxx Tour kicked off in early July and will conclude on Oct. 29 at San Antonio's Nelson Wolf Stadium. 

More from Complex

#LifeAtComplex: Tony Is Back From His West Coast Trip

#LifeAtComplex is a daily vlog that offers an inside look at Complex. Watch as Tony Mui takes viewers behind-the-scenes in the office—you never know who or what will pop up.

On today's episode, Tony and Al recap their recent trip to San Francisco and Portland. Later, Tony chops it up with Charlotte Hornets center Frank Kaminsky and gets some tips on how to level up on the basketball court. Jonathan also shows off a dope commercial highlighting Pigeons and Planes' SS17 drop that is available now at Shop.Complex.com.

Subscribe to Complex on YouTube to check out more episodes of #LifeAtComplex, and follow us on Twitter and Instagram.

More from Complex

Protesters Rip Down Confederate Statue in North Carolina

In wake of the deadly white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, this weekend, protesters in Durham, North Carolina took to the streets Monday night demanding the removal of a Confederate statue. 

According to the Herald Sun, more than 100 people participated in the “emergency” protest, which took place outside the old Durham County Courthouse. Video posted on social media shows a group of activists holding picket signs and chanting “No Trump! No KKK! No fascist USA!” before toppling the Confederate Soldiers Monument. The publication reports several activists used a ladder to reach the statue and tie a rope around it to then pull it down. Protesters cheered after the nearly 100-year-old statue was smashed into the ground, with some spitting and kicking it.

“Charlottesville and racist monuments across the country are the result of centuries of white supremacy,” activist Alissa Ellis told the Sun. “But we cannot ignore the fact that the current Trump administration has emboldened more nazis, KKK, and white supremacists to target, brutalize, and kill our communities […] The White House and its elected white supremacists are just as responsible as hooded klansmen and racist vigilantes for what happened. They have blood on their hands.”

The statue, which was dedicated in 1924, depicts a Civil War soldier with the words “In memory of the boys who wore the gray” engraved on the front. It also features a seal that reads, “The Confederate States of America.”

More from Complex

Police Have Identified and Arrested the Suspected Driver in Charlottesville Tragedy

Following the death of at least one person and injuries sustained by dozens, the man believed to have driven a car into a crowd in Charlottesville, Virginia has been arrested by local police.

According to the Washington Post, the suspect in question is James Alex Fields Jr., the man to whom the vehicle is registered. Just 20 years old, Fields' arrest was confirmed by the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail Superintendent, Martin Kumer, and Fields is facing an extensive list of charges. He was reportedly booked by police for, “suspicion of second-degree murder, malicious wounding, failure to stop for an accident involving a death, and hit and run.”

Fields, a registered Republican hailing from Maumee, Ohio, is believed to be the man behind the wheel of the Dodge Challenger that careened into a crowd of protesters in Virginia on Saturday. Video of the incident shows the despicable act in full detail, with the car sending bodies flying before crashing into other cars on the narrow street.

Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe, who declared a state of emergency to prepare for the escalating violence between protesters and counter-protesters over the weekend, spoke forcefully following the outburst of violence in his state. He was clear in placing the blame on the shoulders of white supremacists, who he insisted were not welcome in Virginia.

“You pretend that you are patriots, but you are anything but a patriot,” said McAuliffe. “You came here today to hurt people, and you did hurt people. My message is clear: We are stronger than you. You have made our commonwealth stronger. You will not succeed. There is no place for you here. There is no place for you in America.”

While McAuliffe was unequivocal in his condemnation of white supremacists, President Donald Trump was decidedly softer in his response to the tragedy, refusing to target any specific group in the aftermath of the incident. 

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms,” said Trump, “this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. On many sides.”

Trump's statement on the incident was roundly criticized, especially after his response to the matter was delayed until Saturday afternoon, half a day after the initial rallies at Charlottesville were taking shape.

Fields is currently being held without bail. 

More from Complex

DMX Placed on House Arrest After Failing Four Drug Tests

The latest development in DMX's tax evasion case finds the rapper finally catching a break. After pleading not guilty back in July, X was let out on bond but faced strict conditions, including travel restrictions. However, he violated that last part with a trip to St. Louis—a trip that might have landed him in jail.

However, on Friday morning the judge took it easy on DMX, keeping him out of jail despite his travel violation—and despite the fact that the Ruff Ryders icon failed four separate drug tests for marijuana and cocaine, according to TMZ.

Instead, X was placed on house arrest and ordered to wear an ankle bracelet. TMZ reports that the conditions are so strict that he can't even go outside to mow the lawn.

DMX is accused of hiding millions of bucks in income from the government in order to avoid taxes. In all, the U.S. attorney's office says the alleged “multi-year scheme” had X skipping out on a $1.7 million tax bill.

“For years, Earl Simmons, the recording artist and performer known as DMX, made millions from his chart-topping songs, concert performances and television shows. But while raking in millions from his songs, including his 2003 hit 'X Gon' Give it to Ya,' DMX didn’t give any of it to the IRS,” wrote Joon Kim, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, who was probably working on that joke for weeks. “Far from it, DMX allegedly went out of his way to evade taxes, including by avoiding personal bank accounts, setting up accounts in other’s names and paying personal expenses largely in cash.”

More from Complex

Mariah Carey’s Ex-Choreographer Explains Why She’s Fresh Out of F*cks to Give

What can really be said about the legend, the diva, the high-note-hitting extraordinaire Mariah Carey? She’s got the voice of an angel and has been holding it down in the music industry since 1990—do you hear me? 1990. That’s 27 years. She’s had countless fine moments, and she's made history along the way; in 2008, the classic anthem of promiscuity “Touch My Body” became Carey's 18th No. 1 single on the Hot 100, making her the solo artist with the most number ones in the chart's history. Between her forever-relevant hip-hop collaborations (“Me and Mariiiiiah, go back like babies with pacifiers“), powerful ballads and monstrous pop hits, Carey's success and impact are undeniable. She also has adorable kids, whom she brought up onstage to help her sing during a recent date from her All the Hits tour with Lionel Richie.

But something ain't right these days. To keep it a buck, I'm starting to get concerned. It all started back in late December, when Mariah was tasked with performing on ABC's annual New Year's Rockin' Eve showcase. Production issues made things go horribly awry, with Mariah claiming she couldn't hear and “didn't have a sound check” for certain songs. Instead of going along with it, asking to start over, or even singing a line or two, Mariah just walked around the stage, awkwardly, until the performance finally came to an end. The last thing she said was, “It just don't get any better,” before walking off stage unceremoniously.

Technical glitches were reported on set, so most fans took the botched show with a grain of salt, with some of them even getting a few jokes off in the process. But as of late, Mariah's been a little… off. And she doesn't seem to give a shit. A few videos have surfaced on social media recently, showing the singer doing the absolute least onstage during her performances.

Someone else out there in the internet world is apparently as concerned as I am, because they took the time to make a video comparison of Mariah performing in the late '90s versus today.

Nobody is saying Mariah was serving up intricate choreography back in the day—she’s got those fucking pipes, so she technically doesn’t have to do anything but stand there and sing. (Adele does it on the regular, and you don’t hear anyone complaining.) But Mariah at least had a little shimmy in her back then. During her Vegas residency at Caesars Palace, which ran from 2015 to this summer, she was a little less fluid—which, duh, it's been more than 15 years—but she was still willing to generally move her limbs. Here she is in 2015.

So what happened? As it turns out, there might be a pretty simple reason for the change in Mariah’s recent shows. In January, almost immediately after the New Year’s Eve fiasco, Mariah fired Anthony Burrell, her now-former choreographer and creative director. In a phone conversation, Burrell said he’s been busy since then with Breaking Barriers Dance Intensive, a program in its fourth year that provides professional dance education and world-class training to youth and adult dancers in inner-city environments. (He's also been quite occupied with his role as a dancer and choreographer for Parkwood Entertainment—you know, Beyoncé's camp.) But he’s had a couple of free moments to view the recent videos of Mariah’s performances, and he’s not surprised by the dip in… we’ll call it quality of show. 

“It's just typical Mariah,” Burrell said. “Mariah is clear: when she doesn’t wanna do something, she doesn’t do it. She’s performing with lackluster and no fucks given, and it’s taking away her star.”​

As her choreographer, Burrell said he was focused on making sure Mariah was comfortable onstage as not just a singer, but an all-around performer.

 

A post shared by anthonyburrell (@anthonyburrell) on Jan 29, 2017 at 5:37pm PST

“Working with an artist like Mariah, who’s not a mover first, it’s always a challenge to get them to think physically and not just vocally,” he said. “You always have to keep in mind that they’re a singer first. The priority is not teaching them 100 counts of 8, or endless routines. I wanted to give Mariah a modern push to revamp her, give her a fresher, more modern feel, make her more aware of her body and her lines, and not look like her feet hurt when she’s walking.”

Burrell had been working alongside Mariah for four years before they parted ways in January. Throughout that time, he says, Mariah had come to trust and depend on him heavily for show design and physical awareness while performing. Now, Burrell says, there's no one guiding her, and it's showing.

“You're a legend,” Burrell said. “But you don’t care, your team doesn’t care. They’re not guiding and directing her. She’s back to where she was before. It's not like she's never looked this bad before; I just stepped her game up.”

 

A post shared by anthonyburrell (@anthonyburrell) on Dec 6, 2016 at 6:59pm PST

Burrell said that during his time in Mariah's camp, he got the sense that her team was flat-out inexperienced. “It felt like they were so new at their jobs, and had no direction,” he said. “When you’re green, you’re playing things by trial and error, and there were a lot of errors. I was very vocal about things that weren’t right. When you try to take a shortcut and you don’t know the clues, you’re bound to get fucked up or screwed, because you don’t have the experience of running a tour or a billion-dollar empire. Some of the dancers her team hired are great dancers, but they’re not choreographers or creative directors.”

Overall, though, Burrell said Mariah is a “world-class artist” and “a great person to work with.” But his experience—and his departure—definitely puts things into perspective. 

Let’s not get it twisted: I’m here for Mariah, until the day she decides to retire that crystalline voice of hers. (Well, 99% crystalline. Hey, nobody's perfect.) So are many, many of her dedicated fans, who refer to themselves as her “lambs” or “lambily.”

But as much love as there is out there for Mariah, there's no denying the fact that she's scaled back on the amount of effort she puts in onstage. Then again, Mariah's longstanding status is that of a queen. And when you're a queen, you do as you damn well please. Just don't do it at the expense of your loyal subjects, Mimi—that's all I ask.

More from Complex

R. Kelly Denies That Any of His Tour Dates Have Been Canceled

R. Kelly is crying “fake news.”

While on his way to perform in Mount Pleasant, Michigan, the 50-year-old singer recorded a message for his fans, claiming none of his shows have been canceled.

“I want everybody around the world to know, ain’t no tours canceled, man,” he said. “All right, despite what you hear, don't believe the hype. I haven’t canceled not one show. All right, I’m ready to get it in tonight.”

Last week, it was reported that Kelly’s team had canceled four dates on his After the Party Tour—one in Los Angeles, one in Dallas, and two in Louisiana. Sources close to the artist claimed the LA stop was canceled due to a scheduling conflict, but they refused to comment about the other three shows. Other sources told TMZ the cancelations were due to poor ticket sales, likely caused by Kelly’s recent “sex cult” scandal.

The controversy began last month, when Buzzfeed published a report that accused the singer of kidnapping and sexually abusing a group of young women. Kelly and one of his alleged victims Jocelyn Savage have publicly denied these claims. Savage’s parents, however, said they're convinced their daughter has been brainwashed and held against her will.

“He doesn’t let them get away,” Joycelyn’s mother, Jonjelyn Savage, said during an interview on Atlanta-based radio station V-103. “He basically isolates them from the world.”

There were rumors Kelly would pull the plug on his tour in light of the allegations; however, he later called the sex abuse claims “a bunch of crap” and told fans he had every intention of continuing the tour. He's scheduled to perform Saturday in Detroit. According to the Detroit Free Press, tonight's show has sold out.

More from Complex

Issa Rae Says Hollywood Will Be More Diverse as ‘Racist Old Executives’ Die

Writer, actress, and Insecure co-creator Issa Rae is Complex's new cover star, and in her in-depth interview with Nadeska Alexis she spoke at length about the issues of race in the entertainment industry.

When Rae was asked about a comment she made regarding Hollywood's diversity and progress being tied to racist, old executives dying off, the star didn’t mince words in her response. 

“I'm happy to report that we're making progress. People are dying,” she said in joke-y and serious manner. “Roger Ailes just died. He needed to go. it's great. As time goes on… unfortunately we won't be able to take advantage of it like the younger generation, but it's happening and I feel like there are people in positions of power who wouldn't have had an opportunity in the past that have opportunities now and who have, a firm vision and are intent on hiring the people who haven't been hired in the past. I'm very optimistic on that. People die every day, so it's great.”

Issa Rae's words may rub some the wrong way, but there's truth in what she's saying. Racial issues in the entertainment industry have been well-publicized these last few years, most notably with the #OscarsSoWhite controversy in the movie industry. Television, by comparison, has offered a more diverse crowd of nominees at the Emmys, but make no mistake: there’s still progress to be made—especially at all levels of the creative process, including the executive levels, where money is allocated and shows get greenlit or canceled.

In that respect, Rae highlights the importance of having individuals like Prentice Penny and Melina Matsoukas involved in the day-to-day creation of Insecure. While you wouldn’t describe them as TV veterans, their vision certainly helped shape the show. According to Rae, not everyone gets that opportunity in 2017.

“That's the biggest catch-22 of the situation of just trying to work in Hollywood, trying to hire younger writers, trying to hire people who aren't in the union and who aren't experienced,” she said. “They'll never get those opportunities if they don't get a chance, and some people get a chance and blow it. OK, but at least they got one.”

Watch our full video cover story with Issa Rae here. Season 2 of Insecure premieres on HBO this Sunday, July 23.

More from Complex