LeBron James and Russell Westbrook Take Over; Ball Bros Bounce From Lithuania | Out of Bounds

On today’s show, Gilbert Arenas and the #OutofBounds crew begin by discussing Elon Musk’s plan to build a cyborg dragon. In related WTF news, Gil is apparently unfamiliar with the billionaire behind Tesla and SpaceX, and his reason why will have you rolling.

Looking back at last night’s playoff action, Gil identifies the unexpected Raptors difference-maker who’s causing his Wizards to lose. Next, Hibachi breaks down the unstoppable force that is LeBron James, after LBJ did it all in Cleveland, damn near posting a triple-double with 44 points and delivering a clutch block and the game-winning three. And despite the Rockets eliminating the Timberwolves in Houston, Agent Zero is unimpressed with the one-seed and explains why. Then, after the Thunder fought back from down 25 to avoid elimination, Gil makes sense of Russell Westbrook’s crazy game (45 points on 39 shots), as well as Carmelo Anthony’s irrelevance.

In “Face-to-Face,” former NBA forward and Pacers analyst Scot Pollard joins OOB to discuss the Cleveland-Indiana series, including LeBron’s dominance, his suspect supporting cast and how it compares to the team they played on together, and Victor Oladipo’s struggles.

Looking ahead to tonight’s Celtics-Bucks Game 6, the team asks if Giannis will be aggressive and have a superstar game to stave off elimination before picking which teams will advance in the unresolved series.

Then, with LaVar Ball pulling his sons LiAngelo and LaMelo out of Lithuania over a dispute with their coach, OOB discusses what we learned from the Ball Brothers’ overseas circus and what’s next for Lonzo’s siblings.

Finally, with the NFL Draft mercifully upon us, in “Fair or Foul?” the guys weigh in on teams endlessly analyzing and picking apart players in the draft process, and Gil explains what they should really be looking at.

More from Complex

LeBron James Calls Out ‘Corrupt’ NCAA

LeBron James did not play college basketball, and clearly he did not need to. He was an impact player in the NBA straight out of high school. The No. 1 pick in the 2003 draft, LeBron went on to win the 2004 Rookie of the Year award.

LeBron was one of the lucky top prospects who was able to declare for the NBA Draft straight from high school. Since 2006, draftees have been required to be at least 19 years of age and be one year removed from high school in order to be declared eligible.

The “prep-to-pro era,” which began with Kevin Garnett, ran from 1995-2005. A number of standout NBA players made the leap straight from high school—LBJ, Big Ticket, Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady, and Dwight Howard, among others.

As long as top prospects are forced to play college ball, shady practices will be associated with the recruiting process. A number of programs, including Louisville and Arizona, have recently come under fire for going to crazy and illegal lengths to lure top recruits. In light of those stories, the broken NCAA system is a talking point around the hoops world.

5a89b5d9d991ce3d7d0fa5f2

Tuesday, LeBron expressed his point of view—that the NCAA, which capitalizes off the players, is corrupt.

Many believe the “one and done” system has harmed both college hoops and the pros, and it looks like the progressively minded NBA commissioner Adam Silver might change that rule in the near future.

More from Complex

The List of Crazy LeBron James Conspiracy Theories Just Keeps Growing

During NBA All-Star Weekend, NBA Commissioner Adam Silver mentioned that the league is considering potentially altering its playoff system. Instead of having the teams divided by conference—with seeds 1 through 8 in the East and seeds 1 through 8 in the West—the change would mean all 16 teams would compete in the same bracket, with East teams competing with West teams. In theory, seed 1 would play seed 16, much like the NCAA Tournament system.

On the surface, this is a reasonable change that could make the NBA Playoffs more interesting. As it stands now, the first round of the playoffs is pretty…lacking. This would shake things up.

But some people have already asked: Could this possibly all be a ploy to benefit LeBron James? That's the perspective Out Of Bounds host Gilbert Arenas espoused on Tuesday's episode of the show. Check out No Chill Gil's take in the video above. You can also catch the full episode below.

5a8c7a24ef669442f55ddeee

“Why would you want to change it now? Huh, if Adam Silver knows LeBron James is coming to the West Coast,” Gil said. “If LeBron James comes to the West Coast, this actually makes sense now.”

Indeed, where the King will play next season is a topic of much debate among NBA fans. People have said for over a year that they think he's headed to the Lakers, while others have linked him to the Rockets—both Western Conference teams. Either way, Gil's theory suggests the NBA is trying to set the playoff seedings up so that LeBron would still have a relatively easy path to the NBA Finals, even while playing in the West.

Gil's conspiracy theory is far from the only conspiracy theory that has been attached to LeBron's name throughout his illustrious 15-year career. Conspiracy theories following someone nicknamed “LBJ”? You don't say. (Word to Lyndon Baines Johnson, whom conspiracy theorists blame for the Kennedy assassination.)

Below are some of the wildest LeBron James conspiracy theories we've ever seen.

1. LeBron is headed to the Lakers because of…Space Jam 2?!

It feels like Space Jam 2 is never going to happen at this point, right? However, some believe signing with L.A. would give LeBron the buzz needed to raise the budget for the film. Director Justin Lin has confirmed the sequel is happening. We just don't know when.

2. The Spurs air conditioning conspiracy

The Spurs jumped to a 1-0 lead in the 2014 NBA Finals, and LeBron had to leave Game 1 in a pivotal moment because he cramped up in the fourth quarter. People accused San Antonio of intentionally messing with the A.C. to force the best player alive to check out of the game. That would be downright Belichickian.

3. We have to address Delonte West

Did former Cavs guard Delonte West have an affair with LeBron James' mom Gloria in 2010? We may never know, but West appeared to confirm the rumors in 2014.

4. Did a young LeBron intentionally blow a playoff game against Boston?

The Cavs played the Celtics in the 2010 Eastern Conference semifinals, and some accused him of intentionally blowing Game 6. The theory is that LeBron wanted out of Cleveland and he used that series to show the NBA he simply had to leave because he was working with so little talent.

5. Were he and Kyrie in it together?

All the drama that followed LeBron and former teammate Kyrie Irving this summer was so perfect and theatrical that it seemed staged. Was it possible they worked together to orchestrate a move that was ideal for both of their careers? Some think so.

6. Did he play a role in Eric Bledsoe's trade demand?

Eric Bledsoe demanded to be traded and eventually was—from the Phoenix Suns to the Milwaukee Bucks this past fall. Rich Paul, LeBron's agent and close friend, represents Bledsoe. Some believe LeBron was pulling the strings because he wanted Bledsoe to get out of Phoenix.

7. Really, anything could be turned into a LeBron conspiracy—even wine

Even an innocuous team trip to Napa Valley for a nice wine tasting has proven it could lead to conspiracies. People blamed the Cavs' 2017-18 struggles (which are maybe, possibly, probably over) on their love for the vino.


The Eastern Conference looks up for grabs right now. The Cavs are surging, but the Raptors and Celtics have been good all year. Regardless of how the playoffs shake out, you can bet more LBJ conspiracy theories will hit the internet in May and June—especially after he announces his free-agency decision. Get ready to add to this list.

More from Complex

LeBron to the Lakers This Summer? Not So Fast, According to a New Report

Folks around the NBA have murmured for more than a year now about LeBron James' purported interest in bolting to Los Angeles when he has the opportunity to opt out of his contract during the 2018 offseason. Would he really leave his hometown team twice in his career? That remains to be seen. But people around the league have suspected as much—and suspected that he's headed for Los Angeles—for a long time now.

LeBron owns two houses in L.A., and conquering the West would provide him with a new challenge—a new potential legacy boost, if you will. Also, the Lakers have a wealth of cap space, a promising young roster, and a storied history. If he could bring them back to prominence, well, it would do a ton for LeBron's place in the history books. Of the two L.A. franchises, it seemed way likelier that LeBron would desire a spot on the roster of the Lake Show.

According to a new report from two of the most plugged-in NBA reporters, however, the Lakers may pass on pursuing LeBron this offseason. As Adrian Wojnarowski and Ramona Shelburne of ESPN report, the Lakers are focusing their efforts—and their cap space—on the free-agent class of 2019 rather than that of 2018. The 2019 class is indeed ripe with young talent; Kawhi Leonard, Klay Thompson, and Jimmy Butler could be among the players on the market.

In 2018, it's expected that LeBron, Paul George, and DeMarcus Cousins will be available. But LeBron, as great as he is, is 33, George seems very interested in sticking with the Thunder, and Cousins just suffered an absolutely debilitating Achilles injury.

This recalibration also reportedly stems from the Lakers' lack of belief that LeBron is actually interested in joining the team. Though L.A. has a bunch of gifted young players—including Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, and Kyle Kuzma—there isn't a bona fide star on the roster. LBJ would be taking a big risk by signing with the yellow and purple.

A lot could change in the next few months, of course. The Lakers are still reportedly shopping Julius Randle and Jordan Clarkson. But with this latest report, it looks a lot less certain that LeBron will head to Hollywood this summer.

More from Complex

LeBron hits 30K Points; NBA All-Star Snubs; NFL Shamed | Out of Bounds

Last night, LeBron James became the youngest player to join the NBA's 30,000-point club. Gilbert Arenas remembers the moment he knew LBJ was on another level and the #OutofBounds crew debates if he can pass Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to become the league's all-time points leader. Following the announcement of the NBA All-Star Reserves, the team talks snubs and Gil pulls back the curtain on the coach's voting. In the “In Play” segment, OOB breaks down the upcoming Saturday night matchup between the Celtics and Warriors — the NBA's best defensive and offensive teams. To close, the guys react to the Eagles shaming the greedy NFL into giving “underdog” T-shirt proceeds to charity.

More from Complex

LeBron James to the Lakers? Yes, This Is a Rumor That’s Actually Going Around Right Now

From now until the time he retires, LeBron James' free agency decisions will be covered with the fervor of a presidential election or, say, an NBA prospect's loud-ass dad. This has been the case for a long time. Because of this well established fact—oh, and probably because the Cavs currently find themselves in a 3-0 Finals hole—rumors are seeping out about where LeBron will take his talents to next when he's a free agent in the summer of 2018 (yes, over a year from now).

Those rumors, which certainly won't be the last, have the current Cavs' star heading to Los Angeles to play for the Lakers. The other rumor that came out on Thursday has him going to…oh, also L.A., but this time to the Clippers. Kevin O'Connor of The Ringer relayed the chatter, which has reportedly been floating around NBA circles. O'Connor also made reference to a nearly year-old Yahoo article from Adrian Wojnarowski that said there was a belief throughout the league that James wouldn't remain in Cleveland for the remainder of his career. 

If you keep up with your LBJ rumors, this shouldn't come as a total shock, unless you expect him to somehow convince Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony and Dwyane Wade to come to Ohio.

O'Connor also talked about some comments Jalen Rose made on First Take this week, where he said he thought LeBron would eventually play in Cali because he has a house a half an hour away from the Staples Center (the same one that got vandalized):

After the completion of the 2017-18 season, LeBron will have a player option for the 2018-19 campaign worth $35.6 million.

But perhaps LeBron doesn't think Cleveland will stay competitive in the future. Or *clears throat loudly* perhaps he likes the attention. Or perhaps he's just sick of the narrative of “Why can't LeBron James win titles?!” even when everybody knows it's kind of a BS point because he's going up against a Finals opponent that's clearly superior.

It's up to you to decide how fact-based these statements are. That's kind of the thing with LeBron: everything about him becomes news.

Anyway, have fun going through this all over again, Cavs fans.

More from Complex

LeBron James Jokes About Missing Wide-Open Dunk Against Celtics

Just two days after putting up an abysmal 11-point performance against the Celtics in Game 3 of the Eastern Conference Finals, LeBron James rebounded to score 34 points in Game 4 on Tuesday night. He overcame some early foul trouble to finish 15-of-27 from the field and hit a bunch of key shots in the second half to help the Cavaliers win 112-99 to take a commanding 3-1 series lead. But LeBron very easily could have finished the game with even more points than that.

With just over four minutes to go in the game, Kevin Love grabbed a rebound off a missed Avery Bradley jump shot. He then turned and threw the perfect outlet pass to LeBron, who had worked his way behind the Celtics defenders at the other end of the court. LeBron caught the pass and had an opportunity for a wide-open dunk to give the Cavaliers the lead. And then, well, this happened:

LeBron tried to throw a dunk down with so much force that he missed it and gave the ball right back to the Celtics. It was an odd sequence of events and got quite the reaction on Twitter:

During his post-game press conference, LeBron was asked if he has ever missed a dunk like that before, and he joked that he has. He also joked that, despite the missed dunk, he still thinks he’s made more dunks in his career than he’s missed.

“I think I missed one in Boston before,” he said. “I’ve missed a couple dunks in my career. I think I’ve made more than I’ve missed, though, so the percentages are pretty good.”

LeBron is right. He has missed a few dunks in the past. Like this one against the Bobcats:

And this one against the Lakers:

And this one against the Thunder:

But he’s also had his fair share of success when it’s come to making dunks. So he’s allowed to miss one every now and then, right? Eh, just don't tell that to all the Michael Jordan fans out there.

More from Complex